Nicene Creed Against Son of God Doctrine

Below are the examples of Christianity beliefs from the (NC.) and (TC.) that are Dogma and how they failed scripturally as truth against the Son of God Doctrine.

Dogma is a religious doctrine that is proclaimed as true without proof.

*GOD

(NC)-I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible. I believe one holy catholic and apostolic Church. I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins; and I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.     

(TC)- Each of these persons is God. Christ is his own father and his own son. The Holy Ghost is neither father nor son, but both.

(SD)-We believe in one, Invisible, Holy, Supreme Spirit, whose name is Yahweh/JEHOVAH and FATHER. The LORD GOD, the ALMIGHTY, thee only Creator and Maker of Life, heaven and earth, and of all things that exist visible and invisible. Who is greater above ALL, and subject to none. He which was, and is, and is to come. He that is from everlasting to everlasting.

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*JESUS

(NC)-In one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds; God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God; begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father, by whom all things were made. Who, for us men for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the virgin Mary, and was made man; and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate; He suffered and was buried; and the third day He rose again, according to the Scriptures; and ascended into heaven, and sits on the right hand of the Father; and He shall come again, with glory, to judge the quick and the dead; whose kingdom shall have no end.

(TC)-Christ, according to the faith, is the second person in the Trinity, the Father being the first and the Holy Ghost third. The son was begotten by the father, but existed before he was begotten--just the same before as after. Christ is just as old as his father, and the father is just as young as his son.

(SD)- We believe in one man of (soul, mind, body, blood), The LORD JESUS CHRIST, the first born begotten of the FATHER by his spoken word, spirit and resurrection. Who is the purpose of why GOD the FATHER created all things, that Jesus Christ may inherit all things. Who came from the FATHER, made of a woman, born under the law, was tempted in all points, yet without sin, manifested Gods godliness, was made sin for sinners, being an acceptable sacrifice by his death for all sinners, and was crucified. He was resurrected and was made by GOD to be both LORD and SAVIOUR to man. Being now glorified and immortal, ascended unto his GOD and FATHER, and took his given set place on the right hand of his FATHER. Subject under GOD and having given authority over all principalities and powers. Who now rules in the CHURCH, which is his body, who will rule over all kingdoms of this world when he returns in his FATHERS GLORY to judge the quick and the dead. At the end, shall return all rule, authority, and power unto him who gave it, his FATHER GOD.

*HOLY GHOST

(NC)-I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of Life; who proceeds from the Father and the Son; who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; who spoke by the prophets.

(TC)-The Holy Ghost proceeded from the Father and Son, but was equal to the Father and Son before he proceeded, that is to say, before he existed, but he is of the same age as the other two.

(SD)-We believe in the HOLY GHOST, the Holy Spirit of the Lord GOD, that’s a part of himself. The spirit that is GOD's anointing and presence and worker of miracles through man.The spirit that (baptizes) believers into born again sons of GOD. The spirit of Christ's body (the church).The spirit that a part of the seven spirits of God and that manifests all the seven spirits of GOD in man.The spirit that transforms mortal into the glorified immortality of Christ Jesus.

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*CONCLUSIONS

So according to the (NC) Beliefs whats being said is that though we say that there is a God, and he has a son, what they really believe is that theres one God that changed (incarnated) himself into a man (son)- not doctrinal at all!. Then behave as if he had a Father, when he was still God himself- this would be deceitful.So as the son which was alive in the beginning made the worlds and as the son died, but also being God the Father. And biblically what is "holy catholic"? No scripture anywhere supports these beliefs at ALL! Basically saying Jesus is God and Creator. Either in the fashion of incarnation or of a half god half man being.this was not taught by the holy Apostles. Dogma beliefs =ERROR.

Now the (TC) Beliefs declared that the Father is God, and the Son and the Holy Ghost God, and these three Gods make one God. According to them, three times one is one, and according to heavenly subtraction if we take two from three, three are left. The addition is equally peculiar: if we add two to one we have but one. Each one equals to himself and to the other two. Nothing ever was, nothing ever can be more perfectly idiotic and absurd than the dogma of the Trinity. They declare three Gods, inspite of the many scriptures of ONE God, Only! Yet they say God is one God, but has three persons in one godhead. Nowhere in the scriptures does it call the Holy Ghost a person or a separate God. This was not taught by the holy Apostles. Dogma beliefs =ERROR.

(SD)-The Son of God Doctrine is also known as the faith of the Son of God, or the Apostles doctrine. We rightly divide the words of Jesus, of Angels, of the O.T.Prophets, and of the N.T. Apostles. All of their words declare that there is only, one True, and Living God. (Isa.42: 5-8; 44:24/ St.Joh.17: 1-3; 4: 24 / Acts17: 24-29/I.Cor.8: 5,6)All of Gods confessions about himself have always declared him as thee only, ever God. God has never said that he was man or will ever become a man, or ever be made in any fashion of his creations and Death. (Num.23: 19/ Duet.4: 15-19/ I.Joh.1: 5)God cannot Die, EVER! (Psa.90: 1,2) Jesus died! (Luke 23: 46) But before the Beginning, God the Father has his beloved son Jesus, slain (dead) in his divine counsel and purpose.(St.Joh.18: 37/Heb.10: 5-12 /Rev.13: 8)

 All of Jesus ‘confessions abouthimself have always declared him as the first begotten (proceeded out from what God had said) (St.Joh.1: 14; 3: 16; 8: 42) God spoke his son into existence by his word, by speaking it to be so, and using the seed of David and of the virgin Mary. (St. Luke 1:30-35)St.Matt.1:18-25;Rom.1:3). Notice the likeness of the birth of "Issac and Jesus". Abraham and Sarah were of old age. Sarah was a barren woman, meaning her womb carried no eggs(seed),she was wax old in age, very past time of child barring, when the angel sent by God, to speak the child into existence for the appointed time to be born =A miracle birth.(Gen.17:17-19; 18:9-15; 21:1-8). Now notice Mary, her womb was fertile (eggs) but no man lied with her to conceive, God spoke by an sent angel, and God used the seed of David, and united the two seeds together, by the  Holy Ghost, and starting making life in the womb.=A miracle birth. Psa. 132:11/Gal.4:4-7./Rev.22:16. When the bible say, about Mary's womb, that she was conceive of the Holy Ghost, this does not mean that the Holy Ghost is Jesus's father, nor that the Holy Ghost placed a spirit god in her, But, that the Holy Ghost is the spirit and Power of God(miracle performer). The Holy Ghost is serving the purpose of bringing the seed of David into Mary`s womb to conceive in her, because of a virgin Christ will be born through and so that God's sworn oath to David will be kept, that " The LORD hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body(seed)will I set upon thy throne",Psa.132:11. Jesus is the offspring of David, from the lineage of Abraham.  Remember a woman needs the seed of a man to begin life inside of her seed (egg) in order for a woman to make children; this is done through sexual intercourse. The man's seed grants and starts life inside of the woman's egg. Then the woman's body makes the seed into flesh. Therefore Jesus is a man made of a woman (St.John3:6/ Gal.4:4), he is not human and divine at his conception and birth. He was not God himself incarnated into a man, nor God wrap up in the flesh. The record says through "godliness" God was manifested in the flesh. God indwell of himself, by the Holy Ghost into the temple body which is Jesus`s fleshly body, showing forth the godliness of God. God was in Christ, not God was Christ! God is his father by his spoken word and spirit.Psa.89:26, 27. Jesus is the son of man (David), and the son of God (by born again of the Holy Ghost and water) and by the resurrection from death unto immortality. St.Matt.1:13-17; St.Luke1:32; St.Joh.1:29-34; Rom.1:4; I.Joh.5:6-11.

God is a part of his word, Gods word becomes whatever he says it to be! All of God’s creation is a part of Himself. All are by the word of God. God’s word is his seed, and his seed is a part of him. God calls his "words that he speaks", the "word". (St.Joh. 1:1-3/ I.Pet.1: 23)   Jesus never said that he was a God, or will be a God, or that he is the Creator God. Jesus made all these confessions about himself in(St.Joh.6: 48; 8:12- 24, 25; 10:7,11, 36; 11: 25; 14: 6; 15:1/ St.Mark.14: 62) None of these confessions by Jesus says " I am" , God!  Jesus was a man, and said himself he was a man (flesh and blood) and in his soul and mind through baptism of the Holy Ghost, the son of God. Jesus himself contradicts all who say that he is God, when by his own mouth have declare himself to be God's son. (St.Joh 10:36 & 17: 3)  All that Jesus was, is, and shall be, is all by God. (St. Joh.5: 19-30/ I. Tim.2: 5/ Heb.8: 1) The glory of God, is "He who is by himself, responsible for creating and making all things that exist, visible and invisible". To be God, means you are all powerful, all knowing, and all presence in reality. There is no one to be subject unto. This glory cannot be shared. This is the glory of being the only true living God. (Rev.19: 6)There is no other God! (Isa.44: 6-8) Before the beginning there was God, and the seven spirits before his throne. (Rev.1: 4; 4: 5) (The spirit of the Lord, wisdom, understanding, counsel, might, knowledge, and the fear of the Lord)

God was alone, by himself, and in his mind, created Jesus and the Saints, and Angels to be created after his likeness. Man first, to be made with flesh and then secondly perfect in  spirit immortality, of Gods image. (Predestinated)(Rom.8: 29,30/ I.Cor 15:51-53. / Eph.1: 3-6/ I.Pet.1: 3,4) Then he began the creation of making (The Beginning)(Gen.1: 1-31) of all heavens and worlds, and all things in heaven and on earth by speaking all things into existence. (This is the Word of God, his hands, this is how all things that were first created, and then were made (Psa.33: 6-9; 102: 25) The Word of God is what God has said. (Isa.55: 11) Gods purpose to create all things was that his son, Jesus would inherit all things, allowing also the saints to be joint-heirs with Christ, along with the heavenly host. (Angels) Therefore creating and making the immortal family of God. (Rev.21: 22-27; 22:1-5) Jesus is before all things (creation), (Eph.1: 9-11; 3:9-11/ Col.1: 15-19/ Rev.3:14) not the creator of all things! Jesus has showed us God, his Father, by manifesting Gods godliness to men and angels. Jesus expresses this perfectly by loving and obeying the Spirit and Word of truth. (I.Tim.3: 16 / Heb.1: 3-9)

Min. Timothy  Irby